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Thoughtfully Mindless, hosted by Artie, is a podcast centered around openness and curiosity. We cover a wide range of topics with a dynamic lineup of amazing guests from various backgrounds and expertise.
We believe that with more perspective and understanding, a better world is possible, so each week, we bring a guest to share their perspective and experience.
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Was the killing of Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University an isolated act—or part of something deeper? In this provocative and detail-rich conversation, Pia Varma joins Artie to examine the emerging questions around the assassination, including burner phone data, potential intelligence recruitment programs in Utah, and how donor influence might shape both campus life and national narratives. They also discuss the emotional and political climate that shapes how stories like this are framed, misquoted, or dismissed.
This episode doesn’t claim answers—it carefully explores the open threads.
Topics include:
• The Charlie Kirk assassination at UVU
• Phone ping data and burner phone speculation
• LDS influence and CIA recruiting ties in Utah
• The role of elite donors and political messaging
• How media narratives manage controversial truths
• Emotional reactions to high-profile political violence
Connect with Pia on social media and Substack:
instagram.com/laissezfairlounge
https://x.com/TheLFLounge

